#96 Part 2 Helping Our Newest Generation Navigate Their Unique Challenges and Gifts with Kathryn Brewer

Kathryn Brewer is a Mentor, Speaker and Author who works with coaches, therapists, teachers and other conscious leaders on the evolutionary path to catapult their influence, effectiveness and satisfaction in work and life.  She combines decades of experience as a Marriage and Family Therapist and School Psychologist with cutting-edge training and a life-long connection to intuitive knowing.  Due to her personal story growing up as a highly-gifted and psychic child who struggled to fit in, Kathryn is especially passionate about working with mentors of children and youth to help them navigate the unique challenges and gifts of our newest generation.

Kathryn was an initiating member of the CATCH Grant Team for preschools and child care centers in Santa Barbara County, California, in which she modeled in the classroom responses and techniques to teach emotional skills and compassionately shift behavior of children while building their self-esteem and joy.  She designed a Kindergarten entry screening that children found to be fun and gave a glimpse of them as a whole being, not just their skill levels.  Understanding the crucial role of the first five years in child development, she utilized play therapy and energetic techniques to help young children blossom.  Through her skills as an empath, she knew what children felt without the necessity of them finding words to explain.  Her children’s book, “My Awwwsome Story” touches the deepest inner knowing within young children and takes them on a journey that makes real for them their connection to all that exists and validates their urge to make the world a better place.



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#95 Helping Our Newest Generation Navigate Their Unique Challenges and Gifts with Kathryn Brewer

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Kathryn Brewer is a Mentor, Speaker and Author who works with coaches, therapists, teachers and other conscious leaders on the evolutionary path to catapult their influence, effectiveness and satisfaction in work and life.  She combines decades of experience as a Marriage and Family Therapist and School Psychologist with cutting-edge training and a life-long connection to intuitive knowing.  Due to her personal story growing up as a highly-gifted and psychic child who struggled to fit in, Kathryn is especially passionate about working with mentors of children and youth to help them navigate the unique challenges and gifts of our newest generation.

Kathryn was an initiating member of the CATCH Grant Team for preschools and child care centers in Santa Barbara County, California, in which she modeled in the classroom responses and techniques to teach emotional skills and compassionately shift behavior of children while building their self-esteem and joy.  She designed a Kindergarten entry screening that children found to be fun and gave a glimpse of them as a whole being, not just their skill levels.  Understanding the crucial role of the first five years in child development, she utilized play therapy and energetic techniques to help young children blossom.  Through her skills as an empath, she knew what children felt without the necessity of them finding words to explain.  Her children’s book, “My Awwwsome Story” touches the deepest inner knowing within young children and takes them on a journey that makes real for them their connection to all that exists and validates their urge to make the world a better place.



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#94 Who Are These New Kids Coming into This World and What Can They Teach Us with PMH Atwater

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Dr. P.M.H. Atwater, is an international authority on near- death experiences. A survivor of 3 near-death episodes herself, she has completed 44 years of research on the subject, and has written 18 books, including her most recent book, “The Forever Angels: Near Death Experiences in Childhood and Their Lifelong Impact”. In her quest for knowledge she has interviewed nearly 5000 people, including young children who have had such experiences, and adults who have lived their lives after NDEs. Her immersion in the topic has led her to the firm belief that the near-death experience is not an anomaly, but part of a consciousness transformation or “brain shift”. In the 80s, PMH turned from this path briefly to find out why regular children, everyday children, seemed to manifest the same or similar aftereffects of a near- death experience. This project opened her eyes to something quite remarkable, the human race evolving. The children of today, most of them are quite different from any other generation in US history. In this interview, you will learn about how the coming new world will be tailored specifically for the new kids, who will lead the way in the Great Shift from old world to new.



A vast majority (of NDEers) never lose their sense of home.”

”They really are different because their brains formed differently.”

”They’re bringing that knowledge and openness with them.
— P.M.H. Atwater, on early NDEers

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#37 Plant Medicine and the Path to Healing and Wholeness With Dr. Jeff McNairy

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Dr. Jeff McNairy is the Chief Medical Officer at Rythmia Life Advancement Center in Costa Rica. He has a doctorate in Psychology and a masters degree in Public Health from UCLA. Dr. McNairy has been working in the health care field for 25 years in a variety of medical environments and has seen the struggle individuals have when actually trying to heal. He has found that the current Western system of heath care is deficient in healing the population as it is more concerned with managing symptoms and using external sources for “change.” Through Dr. McNairy’s intense experience with the most desperate patient populations (those suffering from addiction, acute mental health issues and trauma), he has seen that the only real healing can come from within.

In this fascinating interview, Dr. McNairy shares the journey that led him to his current position as Chief Medical Officer at Rythmia, a medically licensed wellness retreat facility in Costa Rica which specializes in a number of breakthrough modalities for life transformation, including yoga, breathwork and medically supervised plant medicine. His explanation of how plant medicine works in the brain to help heal past wounds and traumas is riveting.



We believe that all cause of unease is related to being unplugged from the true self, whether that’s anxiety, depression, addiction, all kinds of mental health issues... also illnesses, auto immune disorders... a big part of it is not being united with the actual, true self.
— Dr. Jeff McNairy
The soul contract that you have with yourself in your life is with this “little you”; it’s the authentic you... it represents who you really are...
— Dr. Jeff McNairy

NOTES

  • Dr. Jeff McNairy explains how his early interests in medical anthropology, ethno-botany and indigenous cultures led him to pursue multiple degrees and clinical experiences in order to arrive where he is today.

  • Jeff describes the process in which young children “split” or dissociate from their true selves, which can ultimately result in addiction and a multitude of illnesses and pathologies.

  • Jeff’s describes the amazing transformation of one of his more challenging patients, leading Jeff to explore the use of plant medicine by indigenous cultures and ultimately establish Rythmia in Costa Rica.

  • He explains how Ayahuasca (a form of plant medicine) works in the brain in order to enable people to reconnect with their authentic selves and heal themselves. He uses his own experience to illustrate.

  • Jeff and Marla emphasize how Ayahuasca is not for everyone and should only be administered under medical supervision.

  • Jeff offers insights on a number of topics… the wisdom of young children, the amazing gifts that autistic children possess, and the crucial role that empathy plays in changing the world.


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#32 The Forever Angels - Children and the Near Death-Experience With PMH Atwater

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Dr. P.M.H. Atwater, L.H.D. is an international authority on near death experiences. A survivor of 3 near-death episodes herself, she has completed over 44 years of research on the subject, and has written 18 books, including her most recent book, “The Forever Angels: Near Death Experiences in Childhood and Their Lifelong Impact”. In her quest for knowledge she has interviewed over 5000 people, including young children who have had such experiences, and older adults who have lived their lives after NDEs. Her immersion in the topic has led her to the firm belief that the near-death experience is not an anomaly, but part of a consciousness transformation or “brain shift”.

In this interview, you will learn about the many ways that people who have experienced NDEs, particularly the very young, experience the world differently than the rest of us. Dr. Atwater’s enthusiasm for her subject knows no bounds!



A vast majority (of NDEers) never lose their sense of home.”

”They really are different because their brains formed differently.”

”They’re bringing that knowledge and openness with them.
— P.M.H. Atwater, on early NDEers

NOTES:

  • Dr. Atwater describes the in-depth research she has done on people experiencing NDEs.

  • Her most recent book is “The Forever Angels: Near Death Experiences in Childhood and Their Lifelong Impact”.

  • Children process near-death experiences much differently than adults do. Without a sense of what life was like prior to an NDE, they have no sense of “before”.

  • She describes some of the challenges these children have as they try to compensate for their experience, including trouble bonding with family, fitting in at school and with friends.

  • An early NDE is like a “jump-start” to the brain, and to the sensory system.

  • PMH provides fascinating statistics about the IQs of many NDEers.

  • Sadly, many NDEers experience suicidal ideation as they long to “go back”, in spite of outward appearances of success.

  • P.M.H. suggests ways for early NDEers to reinforce and validate their experiences, including the use of visualization, and by “writing their book”.

  • P.M.H. talked about IANDS (International Association for Near Death Experiences) and the incredible work they are doing as a global community to provide access to information about NDEs.

  • Marla announced the upcoming IANDS live online conference taking place of August 14 to August 16. PMS Atwater will be speaking at the conference on Augest 15th from 10AM to 11AM PST. Click HERE for a link to the conference website.

  • There is much more information regarding NDEs and more on Dr. Atwater’s website, including links to her books as well as a free monthly newsletter.

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#24 Energy Fields Around Our Very Young With Geoffrey Leigh

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Dr. Geoffrey Leigh, PhD. is an author, professor and researcher with over 30 years in academia, conducting and publishing dozens of research articles, presenting many papers at national and international conferences, and teaching classes and community programs. His undergraduate and graduate studies provided him with a diverse approach to human development and family interaction processes, which lay the foundation for developing Noussentrism. During his time at the University of Nevada Reno, he and Jean Metzker developed research into children’s energy fields and later the energy fields of parent and adolescent interactions.

After retiring, Geoffrey moved to Napa, California where he taught graduate classes part-time in the Counseling Program at St. Mary’s College, allowing him to present some of his ideas in his book to graduate students. After publishing Rekindling Our Cosmic Spark in the spring of 2017, Geoffrey now spends his time writing fiction, working in real estate, conducting workshops and spiritual coaching sessions, and enjoying his family and life among the vineyards of Napa Valley.

Click HERE to read Geoffrey’s full bio.

In this heartfelt interview Geoffrey emphasizes the importance of helping children stay connected to their cosmic spark, and how in doing so we can become less focused on the external world and instead reconnect with our own core essence and heart wisdom.



At our core I think we all have a spark of the divine.
— Geoffrey Leigh
We get so focused on the physical form that we lose track of what’s happening with our energetics.
— Geoffrey Leigh
Presence is the most valuable gift we can give children.
— Geoffrey Leigh
Children bring a connection to a greater consciousness and remind us of what we have lost track of.
— Geoffrey Leigh

NOTES

  • Geoffrey describes the concept of Noussentrism, which is defined as “the basic nature and expression of our purest emanation of the universe, the spark of cosmic consciousness”.

  • When we get too focused on the three-dimensional world we lose track of our cosmic spark.

  • He talks about energy rings and how children, who live so much in the present, create them.

  • Geoffrey explains how we can change our own energy fields; meditation is one very effective way to do it.

  • Children arrive with certain skills and abilities that we aren’t aware of, and we need to be open to this possibility.

  • He describes how he approaches children - by first reaching out to them energetically; children are more comfortable with energetic connections.

  • It is important to listen to who children really are, and to encourage that energetic connection as they grow older.

  • He discussed gratitude and the great importance of modeling it for children.

  • Learning to apologize for times one is not in one’s heart is a wonderful way to resolve conflict.

  • Indigenous cultures that are peaceful and most connected to the earth do best at honoring the connection to children.

  • Connecting with nature is another way to hear things we otherwise would not hear.

  • Geoffrey describes what he would say to his five year old self.

  • To listen to Geoffrey’s Heart Opening Meditation, click HERE to download an audio file. Or, click HERE for the written version of the meditation.


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#20 A Beautiful Journey - From Actress and Professor to Yogi and Mother with Hollie Mann

Hollie Mann is a yoga teacher, writer, and mother living in the beautiful box canyon of Telluride, Colorado. In 2018, she left a career as a professor of political theory at University of North Carolina to move west with her family. She has been a writer, educator, consultant, and yoga instructor for fifteen years. Her writing tends to focus on the intersection of politics, philosophy, and moral life, but she has written on subjects as diverse as gender equality in the high tech industry, the upcoming 2020 elections, and the Golden era of Hollywood.

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A lot of us are craving a feeling of being held and supported and that we don’t have to do it all on our own.
— Hollie Mann
Grace is when the distinct pain of a human life can sit comfortably right alongside its breathtaking beauty.
— Hollie Mann
Everything is a moment in our lives.
— Hollie Mann
I try to live an authentic life where my thoughts, words and actions are aligned.
— Hollie Mann

NOTES

  • Hollie Mann’s early career as a child actress was non-traditional yet filled with support from many sources, including parents who were spiritually grounded and a safe and nurturing community in Richmond, Virginia.

  • A fun fact: One of Hollie’s earlier spiritual experiences was her theater role playing Agnes, a pregnant nun, in “Agnes of God”.

  • After an academic career as a professor of political theory, Hollie and her family moved west and ultimately settled in the town of Telluride, Colorado.

  • Her career as a Yoga instructor blossomed in Telluride where she fully embraced the practice of Jivamukti yoga, a form of yoga that combines aspects of modern life with the spiritual and devotional components of yoga, including music, chanting, Sanskrit and meditation.

  • Hollie discusses her faith in a higher power and how even as a skeptic she finds comfort in the belief that she is supported and held by something bigger.

  • Hollie describes the various ways that she helps her children tap into the divine - nature, church, prayer, meditation, chanting, yoga and open-ended conversations about God.

  • On Kirtan and chanting, Hollie explains that its benefits are available to all, even to those who aren’t musical or don’t understand the words.

  • Marla and Hollie discuss one of Hollie’s recent blogposts in which she describes what grace means to her, and how beauty and suffering often exist side by side.

  • Hollie describes the many lessons she has learned from her children. An important one is that she too is a child in this world, opening up to the world of play.

  • Hollie practices chanting, spends time in nature, reads “spends time in the company of fine writers” and writes whenever feeling challenged.

  • Hollie shares her thoughts on the importance of admitting to mistakes.


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#16 How Indigenous Cultures Can Teach Us About Spirituality and Children with Bruce Alderman

Bruce Alderman, MA is affiliate faculty in the College of Psychology at John F. Kennedy University. In 2005 he received his master’s degree from JFKU in Integral Psychology, with an emphasis on Transpersonal Counseling Psychology.  Prior to working at JFKU, he worked and studied abroad for several years in Asia, including teaching courses in creative writing and inquiry at a Krishnamurti school in India. His current areas of interest include Integral Theory and practice, transpersonal psychology, integral postmetaphysical spirituality, among others. In this enlightening podcast, Mr. Alderman shares his insights on listening to, talking with, and honoring children, based on what he has learned from his travels, his spiritual teachers, and from raising his own son.

You are enough. Trust in life.
— Bruce Alderman's advice to his 5 year old self
...Meeting them where they are at, meeting them with more questions and not necessarily with answers, but trusting them to look together with you to something deeper.
— Bruce Alderman, on talking to children

NOTES

  • Bruce recently launched a YouTube channel that includes conversations with friends and colleagues in the field of Integral Spirituality. Integral Theory is psychologist Ken Wilber’s philosophy, which integrates multiple psychological, scientific, religious and spiritual practices into one cohesive model.

  • While teaching in South Korea, Bruce was deeply saddened by the soul-crushing effect that expectations and pressure to succeed had on children and young people of all ages.

  • In contrast, in Indonesian cultures, particularly Bali and Java, children are spontaneously alive, creative and kind to each other. Children are considered sacred and are cuddled, loved, included in art, music and culture.

  • In Indonesia, both the light and the dark are honored in ceremonies and other aspects of culture.

  • Bruce’s impetus to become a teacher was largely due to the spiritual teacher Krishnamurti, who stressed the importance of interacting with children in a way to prevent them from becoming overly conditioned by society… not “shut down into narrow boxes.”

  • “I to I” is the practice of sitting with someone unconditionally with no expectations, also called “disidentification” because one lets go of the fragments of themselves that they hold on to to survive.

  • Dream Yoga is a Tibetan practice of using visualization as we fall asleep in order to remain lucid in our dreams. In so doing, problem solving, creativity and adventure become more accessible.

  • Words of wisdom:

    • Trust the capacity of children beyond what we expect. Listen. Allow them to express their ideas. Our culture tends to infantilize children.

    • Children have an incompleteness that needs the shaping of the world, but they possess an openness and capacity for communing with the world that we tend to shut down.

    • As adults it is important to try to reclaim our childlike qualities. Although it won’t be the same as it was, it can reconnect us with aspects of our potential.

  • Click HERE to read the full text of the William Wordsworth poem, Trailing Clouds of Glory.

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#13 Children and the Near Death-Experience With PMH Atwater

Dr. P.M.H. Atwater, L.H.D. is an international authority on near death experiences. A survivor of 3 near-death episodes herself, she has completed over 38 years of research on the subject, and has written 18 books, including her most recent book, “The Forever Angels: Near Death Experiences in Childhood and Their Lifelong Impact”. In her quest for knowledge she has interviewed over 5000 people, including young children who have had such experiences, and older adults who have lived their lives after NDEs. Her immersion in the topic has led her to the firm belief that the near-death experience is not an anomaly, but part of a consciousness transformation or “brain shift”. In this interview, you will learn about how children describe their glimpses of the divine and the many ways their lives are affected as they move forward.

 
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Dr. Atwater’s exuberance is infectious, and her passion for her subject knows no bounds!

Our souls make certain we remember who we are so we can always make our way back to the lifestream.

God’s breath is what keeps the universe alive.
— P.M.H. Atwater, Quoting Children

NOTES:

  • Children process near-death experiences much differently than adults do. They typically see a series of three very different lights, and there is always a “father figure” of some sort, as well as animals and birds.

  • When talking to young children after an NDE it is crucial to get down on their level and never have your eyes be above theirs, so that they don’t talk to please the adult.

  • Children find it challenging to be back in “real life” when others don’t understand. There is a longing to return to the light.

  • The near-death experience suggests that there is not an afterlife, but an ongoing life stream.

  • A devastating tornado in Missouri resulted in many children experiencing a phenomena of “butterfly people” who saved them from being caught in the tornado. Could these be angels?

  • Very important to let these children (of NDEs) talk and express themselves; prayer, rituals, centerpieces and alters are encouraged.

  • Accept children on their level and realize the truth in what they say. Respect, honor and don’t judge; allow a child to be a child.

  • Biggest lesson for Dr. Atwater: She is at ease wherever she goes, even in scary places, and has strong trust in her inner guidance.

  • There is much more information on Dr. Atwater’s website, including links to her books as well as a free monthly newsletter.

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#12 Using Quietness to Create a Sacred Space with Lacy Borgo

Lacy Finn Borgo teaches and provides spiritual direction for the Renovaré Institute and is the the DMin (Doctor of Ministry) in Spiritual Direction at Fuller Theological Seminary and at Portland Seminary. Lacy provides spiritual direction for adults and children through Good Dirt Ministries and provides spiritual direction for children at Haven House, a transitional facility for the homeless. Listen to the story of Lacy’s spiritual journey, from her early years in west Texas, to the inner city schools of New York, and then to a simpler life in Colorado where she continued to expand her ministry and her work with young children. This remarkable woman recognizes the immensity of the divine gift that we share when we can sit with children and quietly listen without expectations or judgement. Tune in for another awakening episode of Interviews with Innocence!

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TIME STAMPS

  • 0:47 Meet Lacy Finn Borgo

  • 1:47 The start of the spiritual journey

  • 4:46 Lacy’s early education and direction

  • 5:30 The story of Christopher, a young New York inner city child

  • 8:45 The gift of “listening another person to life”, and being fully present

  • 11:05 You don’t always need words to understand, one’s presence can be enough

  • 11:50 The move to Colorado, and the gift of time and space

  • 15:50 Getting in touch with one’s childhood self - an exercise to try

  • 17:00 Describing “soul pings”, or “pings of the Divine”

  • 18:45   Talking to children about prayer

  • 21:30    How the dimensions of the self become integrated during different life stages

  • 22:30    Lacy’s work at Haven House, a homeless transitional facility

  • 24:00 Getting rid of the “shoulds” when listening to children.            

  • 24:25 B.O.W - Body, Openess and Awareness - how to listen to children

  • 26:15 Introducing the new book

  • 29:55   Holy leisure - using quietness to create a sacred space

  • 30:45   More about Lacy’s book

  • 31:40   Lacy’s greatest lesson from children - being open to mystery, wonder, awe and beauty

  • 32:40 Rewiring the brain by daydreaming and looking at clouds

  • 35:14   Final thoughts about the wisdom of children

 
I knew I wasn’t alone, and I had a sense that I was loved.
— Lacy Borgo, at 5 Years Old
A spiritual direction is really a practice of accompanying another as they become awake to the divine.
— Lacy Borgo
We’re really moving in a spiral, into the heart and the divine.
— Lacy Borgo

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